{"id":100,"date":"2024-01-31T16:23:26","date_gmt":"2024-01-31T16:23:26","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/therightway.khushkhabrifellowship.uk\/?page_id=100"},"modified":"2024-01-31T16:42:50","modified_gmt":"2024-01-31T16:42:50","slug":"faqs","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/therightway.khushkhabrifellowship.uk\/index.php\/faqs\/","title":{"rendered":"FAQS"},"content":{"rendered":"\t\t
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Elohim<\/em>\u00a0is the One Living God, but\u00a0Elohim<\/em>\u00a0is not a federation or union of three separate gods.\u00a0 The Living God is a single God.\u00a0 There are no other gods than this One God.\u00a0 However the One God exists always as the Most High, the Angel and the Spirit.\u00a0 As soon as we define one of these Three as a \u201cseparate being\u201d then we have destroyed the definition of\u00a0Elohim<\/em>.\u00a0 For a Muslim, as for Aristotle, the word \u201cperson\u201d means \u201can individual being<\/strong>\u201d.\u00a0 It is this underlying assumption about \u2018being\u2019 that we must address.\u00a0 In the Bible the being of God is\u00a0Three<\/strong>\u00a0Persons.\u00a0 Matthew 28:19\u00a0 \u201c\u2026go and make disciples of all nations, baptising them in\u00a0the name<\/strong>\u00a0of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit\u2026\u201d<\/p>

If we have followed the logic of the Scriptures we can see that the Most High, the Divine Mediator and the Spirit\u00a0cannot<\/strong>\u00a0act individually.\u00a0 To accomplish any of their works they utterly depend on each other precisely because they are\u00a0together<\/strong>\u00a0the single Living God.<\/p><\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t

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Jesus deliberately does not use a formula like \u201cI am God\u201d presumably because it would be very misleading. His knowledge of life within\u00a0Elohim<\/em>\u00a0does not really permit Him to say something like that.\u00a0 He is the Son of the Father; the One\u00a0sent<\/strong>\u00a0from the Father. It would sound completely wrong for Him to say of Himself\u00a0individually<\/strong>\u00a0that He was God. He is the One who always, eternally, at all times carries out the will of the Most High.\u00a0 Whenever Jesus speaks about His place within the Living God He speaks simply of His relationship with the Father.\u00a0 A Muslim worships a god who\u00a0can<\/strong>\u00a0make statements like \u201cI am god\u201d because allah is simply an individual who claims deity.\u00a0 This is not like the Living God.\u00a0 The Three Persons are\u00a0together<\/strong>\u00a0the One God.<\/p><\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t

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The word \u201ctrinity\u201d is not that important.\u00a0 It wouldn\u2019t matter at all if we never used it again.\u00a0 We use it simply as a shorthand way of referring to the teaching of the Bible about\u00a0Elohim<\/em>.<\/p><\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t

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The same answer needs to be born in mind as in question 2.\u00a0 The identity and role of the Spirit is expressed in the Bible in terms of the Spirit\u2019s place within\u00a0Elohim<\/em>.\u00a0 So we find many examples of the work of the Spirit being the work of God, or the Spirit sharing features of the divine life\u2026 but we do not have an Islamic-like statement where the Spirit simply claims to be\u00a0individually<\/strong>\u00a0\u2018god\u2019.\u00a0 However, Acts 5:3-4 is as clear as anybody could want.<\/p>

More generally, on the theme of the deity of the Spirit, the following passages are useful.<\/p>

1 Samuel 10:6-7<\/strong>\u00a0 \u201cThe Spirit of the LORD will come upon you in power, and you will prophesy with them; and you will be changed into a different person.\u00a0 Once these signs are fulfilled, do whatever your hand finds to do, for God is with you.\u201d\u00a0 The newly anointed King Saul is told that God is with him because the Spirit of the LORD is with him.\u00a0 The Spirit\u2019s presence is God\u2019s presence.\u00a0 We find just the same thing in\u00a0Psalm 139:7<\/strong>\u00a0 \u201cWhere can I go from your Spirit? Where can I flee from your presence?\u201d<\/p>

Psalm 51:11<\/strong>\u00a0 \u201cDo not cast me from your presence or take your Holy Spirit from me.\u201d\u00a0 David\u2019s prayer has two aspects.\u00a0 First he prays that he would not be thrown out of the company of the LORD, yet from the other direction he asks that the LORD\u2019s fellowship would not be withdrawn from him. To have the Holy Spirit\u2019s company is to have the presence of the LORD.<\/p>

Psalm 106:32-33<\/strong>\u00a0 \u201cBy the waters of Meribah they angered the LORD, and trouble came to Moses because of them;\u00a0 for they rebelled against the Spirit of God, and rash words came from Moses\u2019 lips.\u201d\u00a0 If we compare these comments with the account in Numbers 20:12-13 we see that the Spirit of God is the LORD.<\/p>

Numbers 20:12-13<\/strong>\u00a0 \u201cBut the LORD said to Moses and Aaron, \u201cBecause you did not trust in me enough to honour me as holy in the sight of the Israelites, you will not bring this community into the land I give them.\u201d These were the waters of Meribah, where the Israelites quarrelled with\u00a0the LORD<\/strong>\u00a0and where he showed himself holy among them.\u201d<\/p>

Isaiah 63:7-16<\/strong>\u00a0\u00a0 \u201cI will tell of the kindnesses of the LORD, the deeds for which he is to be praised, according to all the LORD has done for us \u2014 yes, the many good things he has done for the house of Israel, according to his compassion and many kindnesses.\u00a0 He said, \u201cSurely they are my people, sons who will not be false to me\u201d; and so he became their Saviour.\u00a0 In all their distress he too was distressed, and\u00a0the Angel of his presence<\/strong>\u00a0saved them. In his love and mercy he redeemed them; he lifted them up and carried them all the days of old.\u00a0 Yet they rebelled and grieved\u00a0his Holy Spirit<\/strong>. So he turned and became their enemy and he himself fought against them.\u00a0 Then his people recalled the days of old, the days of Moses and his people\u2013where is he who brought them through the sea, with the shepherd of his flock? Where is he who set\u00a0his Holy Spirit<\/strong>\u00a0among them,\u00a0 who sent his glorious arm of power to be at Moses\u2019 right hand, who divided the waters before them, to gain for himself everlasting renown,\u00a0 who led them through the depths? Like a horse in open country, they did not stumble;\u00a0 like cattle that go down to the plain, they were given rest by\u00a0the Spirit of the LORD<\/strong>. This is how you guided your people to make for yourself a glorious name.\u00a0 Look down from heaven and see from your lofty throne, holy and glorious. Where are your zeal and your might? Your tenderness and compassion are withheld from us.\u00a0 But you are\u00a0our Father<\/strong>, though Abraham does not know us or Israel acknowledge us;\u00a0you, O LORD, are our Father<\/strong>, our Redeemer from of old is your name.\u201d<\/p>

This passage from Isaiah is worthy of deep meditation.\u00a0 The Three Persons of\u00a0Elohim<\/em>\u00a0are set in their redeeming work, all emerging from the Father\u2019s great love for His people.\u00a0 The whole prayer is addressed to the Father [specifically using\u00a0that<\/strong>\u00a0title].\u00a0 Unusually the Divine Mediator is mentioned only once as the one who accomplished salvation.\u00a0 However, in this prayer the Spirit occupies a much more explicit role than is normal in Scripture.\u00a0 Here it is the Holy Spirit who is grieved by Israel\u2019s rebellion, the One who indwelt the people in the wilderness and gave them Sabbath even in such circumstances.<\/p>

We must always remember though that the role of the Spirit within\u00a0Elohim<\/em>\u00a0does not conform to the expectations and assumptions of Islamic theology.\u00a0 It is important that we do not drag the Spirit into a front stage position alongside the Son in an attempt to demonstrate His divinity.\u00a0 This seems to violate the way in which the Scriptures speak of Him.<\/p><\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t

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Allah treats sin much more lightly than the Living God.\u00a0 Far Allah sin doesn\u2019t ultimately matter\u2026 not in the sense of causing a genuine injury to the divine life.\u00a0 Allah can simply arbitrarily decide to forgive a sin at no cost to his own justice or hatred of evil.\u00a0 The Living God cannot do that without violence to the divine hatred of sin.\u00a0 Sin cannot ever be simply ignored\u2026 just as a rotting disease cannot be simply ignored.\u00a0 Sin has to be\u00a0fundamentally<\/strong>\u00a0addressed so that humanity can be healed from it and so that the divine life is not destroyed by it.\u00a0 Islam does not see sin in this fundamental way.\u00a0 Sin is nothing less than an attempt to kill God.<\/p>

Atonement is what is required to address sin.\u00a0 Atonement is required by the life of the Living God because it is the place where \u201cwrath and mercy meet\u201d; the place where the divine hatred of sin and the divine desire for forgiveness are both free to be true and real.\u00a0 Look at Hosea 11 for a wonderful example of the turmoil between forgiveness and wrath within the Living God.\u00a0 Only when the divine hatred of human sin is fully satisfied can\u00a0Elohim<\/em>\u00a0allow us to approach.\u00a0 Blood sacrifice is when the life of the victim is deliberately poured out.\u00a0 Throughout the Bible, as Leviticus 17 shows, blood is the sign of a life poured out\u2026 and the sign of the sinner\u2019s life poured out is what satisfies the divine hatred of sin.\u00a0 Nothing less than the death of the sinner is enough.\u00a0 According to Hebrews 10:1-10, animal blood can never atone for\u00a0human<\/strong>\u00a0sin.\u00a0 It was only ever a forward pointing sign.\u00a0 What was required was a sinless,\u00a0human<\/strong>\u00a0sacrifice\u2026 and sinful humanity could never provide such a thing.\u00a0 The Divine Angel became one of us, yet remained sinless\u2026 and so satisfied wrath and love in Himself.<\/p>

The critical Trinitarian character of the Cross needs to be remembered.\u00a0 Sometimes, by way of shorthand, we may present the gospel as a chasm with humanity on one side, God on the other and the Cross bridging the chasm.\u00a0 Although such a diagram can be a helpful shorthand, it tends to miss the fact that it is the Living God who is on the Cross.\u00a0 The atonement of the Cross does not happen outside of\u00a0Elohim<\/em>, but\u00a0within<\/strong>\u00a0the divine life.\u00a0 It is not abstract justice or a universal abstract \u2018law\u2019 that needs to be satisfied at the Cross, but the heart of the divine life.\u00a0 When we contemplate the Cross, the whole creation watches in awe as a spectator as the Mighty Living God wrenches apart the divine life in order to make forgiveness possible.\u00a0 There has only been one moment from everlasting ages when the Divine Son has ever even contemplated\u00a0not<\/strong>\u00a0performing the will of the Father\u2026 and it was in Gethsemane as He faced the utter, absolute horror of the Cross.\u00a0 The horror of the Cross was not the physical pain, but the awareness that the very life of\u00a0Elohim<\/em>\u00a0would be shaken by what must happen.\u00a0 The Living God\u00a0IS<\/strong>\u00a0the intimate fellowship of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit.\u00a0 If the Father forsakes the Son on the Cross\u2026 then how can the Living God survive such a shock to the divine life?\u00a0 As we contemplate these things we are drawn into the profound and awesome nature of this atonement.\u00a0 It required nothing less than this to atone for human sin.<\/p><\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t

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The Ancient Jews\u00a0did<\/strong>\u00a0speak of it.\u00a0 Philo openly acknowledges the Father, Son and Spirit throughout his studies of Moses\u2026 and he lived before Jesus.\u00a0 Go to the Jews for Jesus website for more.<\/p><\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t

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Death is not annihilation.\u00a0 Death, as Muslims believe, is experiencing the separation of the spirit and soul from the body.\u00a0 When a person dies they do not cease to exist.\u00a0 So, when we speak of the death of God on the Cross, we are saying that the Divine Son really and truly experienced the end of bodily life.\u00a0 The blood of God was truly poured out on the Cross.\u00a0 Of course, as Luke 23:43 tells us, as soon as God died, He returned to Paradise until the third day.\u00a0\u00a0There was never a single moment when the Son did not exist<\/strong>.<\/p><\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t

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  • Manuscript evidence (Ma\u2019il, Kufic mss., dates, etc\u2026)<\/li>
  • Collation Problems<\/li>
  • Contradictions and Errors in the Qur\u2019an<\/li>
  • What then is the true \u2018Word of God?\u2019?<\/li><\/ul><\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t
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    • How do we find the Historical Jesus?<\/li>
    • What does the Qur\u2019an tell us about Jesus? [Suras 3 & 19]<\/li>
    • Jesus fits 1st c. (O.T.- Dead Sea Scr.- Gospels- Josephus) \u2013 Pharisees (Hillel & Shamai), not Saducees or Essenes, confronts Law, Temple, & King. of God<\/li>
    • \u2018Isa\u2019 fits 5-8th c. (Sectarian writings, Syriac mss.) [progression of Mary, Digression of Joseph]
      • Nestorians (5th C.): Jesus = God-chosen human (sura 3:42-48, 51, 59; 4:171; 5:116-117;19:30, 34-35)<\/li>
      • Monarchists: God has no children (sura 4:171; 19:34)<\/li>
      • Docetists (1st C.): Jesus didn\u2019t die (sura 4:156-158)<\/li>
      • Monophysites \u2013 Cholloridian (4th C.) Maryolatry: Mary in the Trinity (sura 5:116)<\/li><\/ul><\/li><\/ul><\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t
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        Four Criteria for Prophet-hood in the Bible:<\/p>

        • Does his message conform to previous revelation?<\/li>
        • Are his predictions verifiable?<\/li>
        • Is he in Isaac\u2019s race?<\/li>
        • Does he use God\u2019s personal name?:<\/li><\/ul>

          Adonai (descriptive) = 340 times<\/p>

          Elohim (generic) = 2,000 times<\/p>

          Yahweh (personal) = 6,823 times<\/p>

          -Does Muhammad fulfil any of these criteria\u2026Thus, is he a true prophet?<\/p>

          -The veneration for Muhammad today\u2026do we have the alternative in Jesus?<\/p><\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

          How can 1+1+1=3? Isn\u2019t the trinity simply three Gods, which the Qur\u2019an condemns? 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